ABD'den Haberler

[Ryback]

@Ali-Naci-Okay, içinde söyledi: Trump’ın Göçmenliği Durdurma Kararı (Nisan 2020)

K vizelerini etkiliyomu bilginiz varmi?

Etkileyecek gibi görünüyor.

[heroinchains]

Arkadaşlar benim genel bir sorum var, umarım yaanlış yerde sormuyorumdur fakat çok sık şunu duymaya başladık forumdaki arkadaşlardan "hakkımızı kimse yok saymaz,bize verlien bir hak bu sonuçta" vs gibi. Fakat GC talihlisi olmak bir hak niteliğinde mi? Vize alan ya da GC çoktan alan arkadaşlardan bahsetmiyorum. Henüz vize alıp almayacağı belli olmamış, "talihli" statüsündeki arkadaşlardan söz ediyorum kendim de dahil. Yani bu iş bir "hak" kisvesi altında korunuyor mu? Neticede bu "hak"kı veren taraf USA, yine alan taraf kendileri olabilir, bu sebeple bir koruyuculuğu var mı bu statüsün diye merak ettim.

[coder]

@heroinchains çekiliş kazanmış olmak, sürecin kesin sonuçlanacağına veya GC vizesi alacağınıza dair bir hak tanımıyor. Zaten çekilişi kazandığınızı öğrendiğiniz sayfada da yazar, "bu vize değildir" diye.

Hatta, vize mülakatı yapıp geçici göçmen vizeyi almak size ülkeye giriş hakkı tanır ancak bu hak, güvenlik vs. gibi gerekçelerle girişte iptal bile edilebilir. Yani ülkeye girip yasal olarak PR statüsü kazandığınızda oturma ve çalışma için hak kazanmış oluyorsunuz.

[heroinchains]

@coder Teşekkür ederim, fakat bunu biliyorum. Forumdan arkadaşların "böyle bi hakkımız var sonuçta" demelerine istinaden bu bir hak statüsünde , bound by law mu diye sormak istemiştim.

[İrem Güzel]

İmzalamiş Trump. Canlı yayını izledim. Canlı yayına gelmeden imzaladım dedi. 60 günlük, 60 gün daha uzatabilirim veya 60 gün olmadan kaldırabilirim durdurma kararını dedi. Sorulan detay verirmisiniz sorusuna daha sonra o konuya gelicez dedi. Hem dışardan gelenlere hemde içerde olanların green card sürecini askıya aldığını söyledi. Başka bir bilgi yok. Sadece dediği gibi saha önce sağlık çalışan olanları falan ayrı tutmuş. Yani böyle bir dv yılı daha önce görülmemiştir. Hayırlısı olsun.

[EmBus]

https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/dunya/trump-abdye-gocmen-kabulunu-60-gun-askiya-alan-kararnameyi-imzaladi-/1815339

[coder]

@heroinchains maalesef yönergeler ortada ve gayet açık iken bunu neye dayanarak hak gördüklerini bilemiyorum.

[Erkangeziyor]

@İrem-Güzel, içinde söyledi: Trump’ın Göçmenliği Durdurma Kararı (Nisan 2020)

İmzalamiş Trump. Canlı yayını izledim. Canlı yayına gelmeden imzaladım dedi. 60 günlük, 60 gün daha uzatabilirim veya 60 gün olmadan kaldırabilirim durdurma kararını dedi. Sorulan detay verirmisiniz sorusuna daha sonra o konuya gelicez dedi. Hem dışardan gelenlere hemde içerde olanların green card sürecini askıya aldığını söyledi. Başka bir bilgi yok. Sadece dediği gibi saha önce sağlık çalışan olanları falan ayrı tutmuş. Yani böyle bir dv yılı daha önce görülmemiştir. Hayırlısı olsun.

Bazı haber kaynaklarında elinde gocmen vizesi olanlar haric diyor. Acaba hangisi dogru?

[Eski Kullanıcı 019]

@heroinchains malesef bu bir hak değil şanstır.zaten adı üstünde bu bir piyango hak olsa göçmen avukatı bulup dava açma hakkı olurdu.

[verdal]

Benim anladığım kadarıyla elinde göçmen vizesi olanları kapsamıyor. Bizim göçmen vizemiz 15 temmuzda doluyor uçuşlar açılırsa 30 haziran a elimizde bilet var aslında re entry permit başvurusu yapıp yaklaşık 40 gün kalıp dönecektik. Ancak bu karmaşadan dolayı 10 gün kalıp bir sene sonra gitmeyi planlıyoruz. İmzalanan kararname ile ilgili farklı bir yorumu olan var mı.

[ozlemc]

@Erkangeziyor https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-proclamation-suspending-entry-of-immigrants-wh-1843009770

Buradan inceleyebilirsiniz.

[Muhammed Eyüp Yavuz]

Arkadaşlar merhaba, imzalanan metni inceledim, bir kısımda aklıma takılan bir şey var. Alttaki kısımda mevcut vizesini almış olan kişileri etkilemeyeceğini mi söylüyor yoksa ben mi yanlış anladım? Bilgilendiren olursa çok sevinirim.

"Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 1 of this proclamation shall apply only to aliens who:

(i) are outside the United States on the effective date of this proclamation;

(ii) do not have an immigrant visa that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation; and

(iii) do not have an official travel document other than a visa (such as a transportation letter, an appropriate boarding foil, or an advance parole document) that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation or issued on any date thereafter that permits him or her to travel to the United States and seek entry or admission."

[ilhanucarus]

@Muhammed-Eyüp-Yavuz aynen ben de senin gibi düşünüyorum. Nedir tam olarak?

[DustyBlue]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDZdKRCdRg

[coder]

ben, metinden geçici göçmen vize ile ilk defa giriş yapacakları etkileyecek gibi anladım. Aslında haklısınız Section 2-a-(i) ve (ii) çelişiyor gibi. Yani, executive order'ın geçerlilik tarihinden itibaren ABD dışında olan yabancılar diyor birinde, diğerinde ise bu tarihler arasını kapsayacak valid immigrant visa sahibi olmayanlar diyor. Kanun metinlerine hakim değilim o yüzden ne söylesek yanlış olur.

Ancak dikkatimi çeken şu oldu; kimlere uygulanamayacağına yönelik bilginin verildiği Section-2-b 'de immigrant visa sahipleri dahil edilmemiş, PR sahipleri, US citizen eşleri, US army'de çalışanlar ve birinci derece yakınları vs. için uygulanmaz diyor.

Bu tür metinlere ve mevzuata hakim birilerinin görüş vermesi, belki US'de göçmenlik hukuku konusunda uzman kişilerin yorumlarını beklemek daha doğru olacak.

[Final Approach]

Ben mevcut vizesi olanları da etkileyeceğini düşünüyorum.

Çünkü Bölüm 2'de kapsama kimlerin gireceğini belirtilmiş. Bölüm 3'te de kapsam dışı olanlar belirtilmiş.

Kapsam dışı belirtilenler arasında immigrant visa alan green card talihlilerine değinilmemiş.

Yasaklı olanları belirttikleri Bölüm 2'de official travel document sahibi olmamak ve immigrant visa sahibi olmamak denilmiş.

Green Card talihlileri immigrant visa alarak ABD'ye giriş yapıyorlar ancak bildiğim kadarıyla kendilerine "official travel document" düzenlenmiyor.

Official Travel Document listesine baktığımda

*Advance parole
*Refugee travel document
*Re-entry permit
*Carrier documentation

gördüm.

Re-Entry permit hariç green card (loto ile) talihlilerini ilgilendiren official travel document yok.

Re-Entry permit başvurusu da Amerika'ya girdikten sonra yapılıyor zaten.

[Erkangeziyor]

@DustyBlue, içinde söyledi: Trump’ın Göçmenliği Durdurma Kararı (Nisan 2020)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vmh7TdEdrA

Herkes farklı bisey söylüyor,kafamız karıstı. Tam olarak cevabını aradıgımız soru; vizesi basılı olanları kapsıyor mu kapsamıyor mu?

[verdal]

@Muhammed-Eyüp-Yavuz
Bende sizin gibi anladım. Mevcut vizesi olanlar için bir kısıtlama yok gibi.

[Muhtaradana]

Subject: Proclamation Suspending Entry of Immigrants Who Present Risk to the U.S. Labor Market During the Economic Recovery Following the COVID-19 Outbreak

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The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 22, 2020

SUSPENSION OF ENTRY OF IMMIGRANTS WHO PRESENT A RISK TO THE UNITED STATES LABOR MARKET DURING THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY FOLLOWING THE 2019 NOVEL CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK

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BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

The 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) has significantly disrupted the livelihoods of Americans. In Proclamation 9994 of March 13, 2020 (Declaring a National Emergency Concerning the Novel Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Outbreak), I declared that the COVID–19 outbreak in the United States constituted a national emergency, beginning March 1, 2020. Since then, the American people have united behind a policy of mitigation strategies, including social distancing, to flatten the curve of infections and reduce the spread of SARS–CoV–2, the virus that causes COVID-19. This needed behavioral shift has taken a toll on the United States economy, with national unemployment claims reaching historic levels. In the days between the national emergency declaration and April 11, 2020, more than 22 million Americans have filed for unemployment.

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In the administration of our Nation's immigration system, we must be mindful of the impact of foreign workers on the United States labor market, particularly in an environment of high domestic unemployment and depressed demand for labor. We must also conserve critical State Department resources so that consular officers may continue to provide services to United States citizens abroad. Even with their ranks diminished by staffing disruptions caused by the pandemic, consular officers continue to provide assistance to United States citizens, including through the ongoing evacuation of many Americans stranded overseas.

I have determined that, without intervention, the United States faces a potentially protracted economic recovery with persistently high unemployment if labor supply outpaces labor demand. Excess labor supply affects all workers and potential workers, but it is particularly harmful to workers at the margin between employment and unemployment, who are typically "last in" during an economic expansion and "first out" during an economic contraction. In recent years, these workers have been disproportionately represented by historically disadvantaged groups, including African Americans and other minorities, those without a college degree, and the disabled. These are the workers who, at the margin between employment and unemployment, are likely to bear the burden of excess labor supply disproportionately.

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Furthermore, lawful permanent residents, once admitted, are granted "open-market" employment authorization documents, allowing them immediate eligibility to compete for almost any job, in any sector of the economy. There is no way to protect already disadvantaged and unemployed Americans from the threat of competition for scarce jobs from new lawful permanent residents by directing those new residents to particular economic sectors with a demonstrated need not met by the existing labor supply. Existing immigrant visa processing protections are inadequate for recovery from the COVID-19 outbreak. The vast majority of immigrant visa categories do not require employers to account for displacement of United States workers. While some employment-based visas contain a labor certification requirement, because visa issuance happens substantially after the certification is completed, the labor certification process cannot adequately capture the status of the labor market today. Moreover,
introducing additional permanent residents when our healthcare resources are limited puts strain on the finite limits of our healthcare system at a time when we need to prioritize Americans and the existing immigrant population. In light of the above, I have determined that the entry, during the next 60 days, of certain aliens as immigrants would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 212(f) and 215(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, hereby find that the entry into the United States of persons described in section 1 of this proclamation would, except as provided for in section 2 of this proclamation, be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and that their entry should be subject to certain restrictions, limitations, and exceptions. I therefore hereby proclaim the following:

Section 1. Suspension and Limitation on Entry. The entry into the United States of aliens as immigrants is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamation.

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Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 1 of this proclamation shall apply only to aliens who:

(i) are outside the United States on the effective date of this proclamation;

(ii) do not have an immigrant visa that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation; and

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(iii) do not have an official travel document other than a visa (such as a transportation letter, an appropriate boarding foil, or an advance parole document) that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation or issued on any date thereafter that permits him or her to travel to the United States and seek entry or admission.

(b) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:

(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;

(ii) any alien seeking to enter the United States on an immigrant visa as a physician, nurse, or other healthcare professional; to perform medical research or other research intended to combat the spread of COVID-19; or to perform work essential to combating, recovering from, or otherwise alleviating the effects of the COVID-19 outbreak, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees; and any spouse and unmarried children under 21 years old of any such alien who are accompanying or following to join the alien;

(iii) any alien applying for a visa to enter the United States pursuant to the EB-5 Immigrant Investor Program;

(iv) any alien who is the spouse of a United States citizen;

(v) any alien who is under 21 years old and is the child of a United States citizen, or who is a prospective adoptee seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR-4 or IH-4 visa classifications;

(vi) any alien whose entry would further important United States law enforcement objectives, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees, based on a recommendation of the Attorney General or his designee;

(vii) any member of the United States Armed Forces and any spouse and children of a member of the United States Armed Forces;

(viii) any alien seeking to enter the United States pursuant to a Special Immigrant Visa in the SI or SQ classification, subject to such conditions as the Secretary of State may impose, and any spouse and children of any such individual; or

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(ix) any alien whose entry would be in the national interest, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees.

Sec. 3. Implementation and Enforcement. (a) The consular officer shall determine, in his or her discretion, whether an immigrant has established his or her eligibility for an exception in section 2(b) of this proclamation. The Secretary of State shall implement this proclamation as it applies to visas pursuant to such procedures as the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, may establish in the Secretary of State's discretion. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall implement this proclamation as it applies to the entry of aliens pursuant to such procedures as the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, may establish in the Secretary of Homeland Security's discretion.

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(b) An alien who circumvents the application of this proclamation through fraud, willful misrepresentation of a material fact, or illegal entry shall be a priority for removal by the Department of Homeland Security.

(c) Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to limit the ability of an individual to seek asylum, refugee status, withholding of removal, or protection under the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, consistent with the laws of the United States.

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Sec. 4. Termination. This proclamation shall expire 60 days from its effective date and may be continued as necessary. Whenever appropriate, but no later than 50 days from the effective date of this proclamation, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Labor, recommend whether I should continue or modify this proclamation.

Sec. 5. Effective Date. This proclamation is effective at 11:59 p.m. eastern daylight time on April 23, 2020.

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Sec. 6. Additional Measures. Within 30 days of the effective date of this proclamation, the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall review nonimmigrant programs and shall recommend to me other measures appropriate to stimulate the United States economy and ensure the prioritization, hiring, and employment of United States workers.

Sec. 7. Severability. It is the policy of the United States to enforce this proclamation to the maximum extent possible to advance the interests of the United States. Accordingly:

(a) if any provision of this proclamation, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this proclamation and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby; and

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(b) if any provision of this proclamation, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid because of the lack of certain procedural requirements, the relevant executive branch officials shall implement those procedural requirements to conform with existing law and with any applicable court orders.

Sec. 8. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this proclamation shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or,

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(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This proclamation shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

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(c) This proclamation is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this
twenty-second day of April, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-fourth.

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DONALD J. TRUMP

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[alp35]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9tcnxTZ1Ng