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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @yasmin982 It is true that Ankara has issued very few IR1/CR1 visas to Turks lately. In September-November, they issued 148 IR1/CR1 visas, but only 14 of those went to Turks (9%). In other words, 91% of IR1/CR1 visas went to non-Turks in that 3-month period. Pre-COVID it was much different with most months having more than 50% of visas going to Turks (from Oct 2019 to Jan 2020, in an average month, 62% of IR1 visas went to Turks).

      During COVID, only Turks (and I think legal permanent residents) could get interviews, so the backlog of non-Turks/non-residents grew large. It seems like they are making up for that now by processing more non-Turks who couldn't be processed during COVID. But it has been over a year since everyone could be interviewed, yet the backlog remains large. You would think after a full year of operation, they could balance the caseload, but that sadly isn't the case. Even still, non-Turks are waiting longer than Turks, so it is rough for them too.

      Many Iranians (probably most) are processed in Ankara because Iran doesn't have a consulate. I don't blame the Iranians for this issue, however, it creates a situation where Turks are put at a disadvantage through no fault of their own. And we also know many Syrians and Afghans come through Ankara too.

      One thing I find annoying is how many IR5 (parents visas) they process. For example, in November, they processed 168 IR5 vs. 51 IR1/CR1. That is over 3 times the amount. Naturally there will be more IR5 because they do them in spousal pairs, but they are going much beyond that. I think it is easy to argue that having your spouse is more important than having your parent, but that is just my opinion. Maybe the backlog is even greater for IR5, so that is why they are doing more.

      On the bright side, we can say that Ankara has definitely increased how many immigrant visas they are issuing. The numbers are greatly increased from last year, but it just doesn't seem like they are prioritizing IR1/CR1 visas at this time.

      We know they have the capacity to process many immigrant visas. For example, for DV visas, they were issuing over 200 per month for a few months and did over 600 in September! If, just for one month, the prioritized IR1/CR1 visas, they could likely clear the whole backlog. And DV visas are probably more complicated than IR1/CR1 visas, so it isn't a complexity issue.

      Put simply, Ankara isn't prioritizing IR1/CR1 visas. They aren't ignoring them either, but they seem satisfied issuing around 40-60 per month (that is the range for the last 6-months).

      The communication from the consulate on all these issues is absent. It would at least be nice to know how they are prioritizing visas and a rough estimate of the backlog in each category. As a US citizen, it is frustrating that a government agency can withhold such basic information, especially since they give estimates of non-immigration visas! Pre-COVID when the wait times weren't bad, I understand not releasing such information because you could expect an interview in 1-3 months and that was consistent. But given these unprecedented backlogs, you would think they would show some compassion and give us a little more information so we can do some life planning.

      I find some comfort in tracking the numbers (obviously I am a little obsessed 🙂 ), but there is little we can do except wait. The way the are processing and prioritizing isn't clear or consistent, so it is bascailly useless to predict what they will do next.

      The best piece of information we have is knowing when our friends get their interview dates and when they were DQ'd. Right now we have 7 people from August-October waiting for interview dates. They are:

      @lucky2022 - DQ late August
      @Handan - DQ August 30
      @Naile-İlyas - DQ August 31
      @AE123 - DQ September 29
      @ekdodo - DQ October 17
      @mazeno - DQ October 20
      @t34 - DQ October 30

      Please add anyone I might have missed.

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      @tekinusa Thanks, I added you to the list!

      @lucky2022 - DQ late August
      @Handan - DQ August 30
      @Naile-İlyas - DQ August 31
      @AE123 - DQ September 29
      @tekinusa - DQ October 6
      @ekdodo - DQ October 17
      @mazeno - DQ October 20
      @t34 - DQ October 30

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      Congratulations to everyone who received an interview letter this morning!

      DQ Date [Interview Date]

      August/Ağustos 2022 (Note: Some Aug DQs received interview dates)
      @lucky2022 Late August [Waiting]
      @Handan August 30 [Waiting]
      @Naile-İlyas August 31 [Waiting]

      September/Eylül 2022
      @AE123 September 29 [Early March]

      October/Ekim 2022
      @tekinusa October 6 [March 6]
      @yusufkeser October 14 [March 16]
      @ekdodo October 17 [March 20]
      @mazeno October 20 [March 21]
      @t34 - October 30

      November/Kasım2022
      @trbilgin November 9
      @ecom November 28
      @koro November 30

      December/Aralık 2022
      @Thenomad December 2
      @CuckooFlower-Daisy December 7

      January/Ocak 2023
      @enayt January 10
      @ufuk_sa January 11
      @matt88 January 24

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      Congratulations @ggbbww and @missy! This is wonderful news. I wasn't expecting more interviews in January. Maybe they are actually speeding things up.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @koro November was a good month for IR/CR visa issuance. Ankara issued 226 IR/CR visas, which is actually the most they have done in recent history. This is mostly coming from the 168 IR5 visas issued.

      They issued 51 IR1/CR1 visas, which is pretty normal but below the average in the previous 12 months (which was 61 IR1/CR1).

      Somewhat depressing for Turkish citizens, in November, only 2 IR1 and 5 CR1 visas went to Turkish citizens. This has been the trend for the last few months. Note that the the Department of State data only show how many Turks received visas, not where they are living. For example, if you are a Turkish citizen living in Germany and get your IR visa through the Berlin consulate, you would be recorded as 1 of the 2 IR visas that went to a Turk in November.

      In other words, we know that Ankara issued 46 IR visas in November. We also know that a total of 2 IR visas went to Turkish citizens in November across all consulates. Whether or not those two visas were issued by Ankara is unknown. But to be conservative, we can say, at most, Ankara issued 2 IR visas and 5 CR visas. But it is possible they issued zero.

      Hopefully they worked through some of the backlog of non-Turks and are now working on Turkish citizens for the first part of 2023. That might explain why our friends here are reporting somewhat shorter wait times (e.g., 4 instead of 6 months) and are getting interviews in January.

      I hope that February is a good month for interview letters.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      Thank you to everyone who provided updates. I added them to the list.

      This is the first I have seen them issue Interview Letters (ILs) across three Documentarily Qualified (DQ) months. They sent ILs to those DQd at the end of November, all of December, and the beginning of January. Remember last month they didn't even get through all of November. It is hard to predict. But overall I think it is good they seem to be moving faster.

      It seems they are trying to keep it within 5.5 months from DQ to interview for IR1/CR1 visas for Turkish citizens who haven't lived in third-party countries.

      I hope our friends who seem to have been skipped get an IL soon.

      DQ Date [Interview Date]

      July/Temmuz 2022 (Note: Most July DQs received interview dates)

      • @Saad July 2 (Third-party national)

      August/Ağustos 2022 (Note: Some Aug DQs received interview dates)

      • @lucky2022 Late August (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)
      • @Handan August 30 (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)
      • @Naile-İlyas August 30 [April 12] (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)

      September/September 2022

      • @AE123 September 29 [Early March]
      • @letlor September 30 [March 17]

      October/Ekim 2022

      • @tekinusa October 6 [March 15]
      • @yusufkeser October 14 [March 16]
      • @ekdodo October 17 [March 20]
      • @mazeno October 20 [March 21]
      • @t34 - October 30 [Late March]

      November/Kasım2022

      • @trbilgin November 9 [April 12]
      • @simaysimon November 18th [April 19] (IR5)
      • @hanifeersan November 23 [May 2]
      • @SNGMSF November 23 [May X?]
      • @ecom November 28 (F2A)
      • @koro November 30 [May 8]

      December/Aralık 2022

      • @Thenomad December 2 [May 9]
      • @CuckooFlower-Daisy December 7 [May 10]
      • @Sinem-Arslan December 12 [May 11] (IR2)
      • @Hakkı-Baltacı December 13 [May 11]
      • @sdfdm December 15 [May 11]
      • @engincan88 December 17 [May 16]

      January/Ocack 2023

      • @meliskadim January 5 [May 22]
      • @serkankorhan January 6 (IR2)
      • @iuz93 January 10 [May 31]
      • @enayt January 10
      • @ufuk_sa January 11
      • @matt88 January 23
      • @mina1201 January 24

      February/Şubat 2023

      • @Emly February 2 (CR1)
      • @serkankorhan February 3 (CR1)
      • @gok334 February 9
      • @Sofia-A February 15
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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      I've been following this thread and have found it helpful. I am going through the IR-1 immigration process with my Turkish spouse. I don't speak Turkish, but I thought I would share my thoughts on the current backlog.

      According to the tweet from Curtis Morrison referenced above, Ankara reduced the number of IR interviews by 69 in 10 business days (June 30th 1,411 to July 15th 1342, excluding the July 4th holiday). That is about 7 IR interviews per day. Projecting that out for the whole month of July (20 business days), they should have done around 140 IR interviews. According to the official visa statistics, they issued 167 IR/CR visas in July. At least this shows that the official monthly visa statistics roughly match what the lawyer was able to get from the Department of State (presumably through a lawsuit, which seems to be his area of expertise).

      The last 5-months of monthly visa data show they have generally issued about 8.5 IR/CR visas per business day (I assume June and July are worse because staff take vacations):

      April: 182 (8.6 per business day)
      May: 192 (9.1 per business day)
      June: 143 (6.8 per business day)
      July: 167 (8.3 per business day)
      August: 199 (8.6 per business day)

      As a thought experiment, let's say they stopped providing new interviews on September 1, 2022. It would take them about 7.5-months to work through the backlog assuming 9 IR/CR interviews per business day. That would mean no new appointments until March 2023 for anyone who didn't currently have an interview. We know, however, that is not how it works. For example, on visajourney, there are a few people who were DQ'd in April 2022 and got appointments in June 2022. At that time, the consulate had over 1,400 backlogged appointments, but these people were still able to get an interview in 2-months (without an expedite). It clearly is not a first in, first out system.

      They do not share how they prioritize cases, if they prioritize any at all. The consulate closed from March - July 2020, and then they were only open to Turkish citizens or permanent residents from Aug 2020-Nov 2021. For almost a year, however, it has been open to Turks and non-Turks. The monthly visa statistics also show that, visas issued to Turkish citizens have been a smaller share of all IR1 visas issued in Ankara. For example, from March - August 2022, only 14% of IR1 visas issued in Ankara went to Turkish citizens. From March - August 2019 (pre-COVID), it was 69%! Although this is disappointing for Turkish citizens, it makes sense because they are still catching up on all those appointments for non-Turks they couldn't do from August 2020 - November 2021. I assume for the last year or so, they have been prioritizing all the non-Turks who couldn't be processed Aug 2020 - Nov 2021.

      I also wonder if more complex cases take longer to schedule. For example, if a person has had multiple previous spouses and children who are also immigrating; has lived in various countries; and/or has a complicated financial sponsor situation, does that mean they need more time to review the file before scheduling the interview? Conversely, are files per-screened and if they are less complicated, they schedule those sooner since it will take less time and effort? I have not idea but I am curious.

      I am hopeful things will speed up for a few reasons. First, in general, the total number of IR/CR visas issued is above the historical average, showing they are working hard to reduce the backlog. Second, as they work through the backlog of non-Turk appointments, I assume they will have more interviews for Turks in the months ahead. Third, it is possible they are hiring more staff since they moved into a bigger building and there have been some news reports about Ankara speeding things up, but that remains to be seen. Finally, the general stance of the Biden administration is to speed things up, but I am not sure how this affects IR/CR visas (but they definitely have sped things up for other visa types).

      Personally, I am hoping that for Turkish citizens or permanent residents, the average wait time will be about 3-months if you are DQ'd in January 2023. Hopefully those of you who have been DQ'd since June will see your interview in November through January.

      I wish they published how many IR/CR visa packages they receive each month, not just how many they issued. If I knew that, it would be easier to calculate how long it might take to clear the backlog. If they are getting a lot of new cases per month, it will take longer to clear the backlog.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      I have good news and bad news.

      Bad news first. The backlog in IR visas increased 26% from July 15th to August 31, per data obtained by Curtis Morrison (July 15th - 1,342 cases waiting to August 31 - 1,701 cases waiting).

      The good news. In September 2022, Ankara issued 926 immigrant visas, which was the most of any month in fiscal year 2022. In total in FY 2022, Ankara issued 6,018 immigrant visas. This is nearly double the total number they issued in FY 2019 (pre-COVID).

      I was disappointed to see such a large increase in the IR visa backlog between July and August, but it seems they really are increasing the number of visas they can issue each month. From April to September they increased the total number of IVs issued each month (except July, which I assume is because people took vacations). If October's number are similar to September, then that is a great sign.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      A few more added!

      DQ'd Waiting for an Interview

      August/Ağustos 2022 (Note: Some Aug DQs received interview dates)
      @lucky2022 - Late August
      @Handan - August 30
      @Naile-İlyas - August 31

      September/Eylül 2022 (Note: Some Sept DQs received interview dates)
      @AE123 - September 29

      October/Ekim 2022
      @tekinusa - October 6
      @yusufkeser - October 14
      @ekdodo - October 17
      @mazeno - October 20
      @t34 - October 30

      November/Kasım 2022
      @trbilgin November 9
      @ecom November 28
      @koro November 30

      December/Aralık 2022
      @Thenomad December 2
      @CuckooFlower-Daisy December 7

      January/Ocak 2023
      @enayt January 10
      @ufuk_sa January 11
      @matt88 January 24

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @Saad I added you with a note about being a third-party national. By the way, from a Facebook group I am part of, someone mentioned that some Iraqis got interview letters last week that had June DQs. Hopefully that means that July DQs are next for other third-party nationals. I also know from that group that May DQs got interviews in December.

      @lucky2022, @Handan, and @Naile-İlyas, I assume you are Turkish citizens. I know you discussed living in another country and that is possibly why your interview letter is delayed. If this isn't true, just let me know and I can remove it. I added that description in case others are wondering why you seem to have been "skipped."

      DQ Date [Interview Date]

      July/Temmuz 2022 (Note: Most Aug DQs received interview dates)
      @Saad July 2 [Waiting] (Third-party national)

      August/Ağustos 2022 (Note: Some Aug DQs received interview dates)
      @lucky2022 Late August [Waiting] (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)
      @Handan August 30 [Waiting] (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)
      @Naile-İlyas August 31 [Waiting] (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)

      September/September 2022
      @AE123 September 29 [Early March]
      @letlor September 30 [March 17]

      October/Ekim 2022
      @tekinusa October 6 [March 15]
      @yusufkeser October 14 [March 16]
      @ekdodo October 17 [March 20]
      @mazeno October 20 [March 21]
      @t34 - October 30 [Late March]

      November/Kasım2022
      @trbilgin November 9
      @ecom November 28
      @koro November 30

      December/Aralık 2022
      @Thenomad December 2
      @CuckooFlower-Daisy December 7
      @Sinem-Arslan December 12 (IR2)
      @sdfdm December 15

      January/Ocack 2023
      @enayt January 10
      @ufuk_sa January 11
      @matt88 January 24

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      Congratulations to everyone who got an interview date and thank you for the updates! It is encouraging news.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @ekdodo They mostly send the interview letter (IL) on Mondays, but I've seen our friends report getting ILs on Wednesday (@intelcorei5) and Friday too (@MYusuf, @mertdzkr, and @cokbekledik86). This makes sense because they do the interviews on Tuesday and Thursday, so the other days are open for desk work (e.g., scheduling).

      Recently, they've consistently sent the ILs about 45-50 days before the actual interview (@cokbekledik86 is an outlier with a 62-day notice). The first interview dates for February are the 2nd and 7th. Forty-five days days before the 2nd is today (December 19th); 45-days before the 7th is December 24th. So I expect IL emails this week on either Wednesday or Friday or the same days next week (Monday the 26th is a holiday).

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @ekdodo Yes, there are two people with DQs on 9/15/2022 that have interviews on February 2 and 9th. That is a difference of 140 and 147 days from DQ to interview.

      I haven't seen anyone with a DQ between September 16th and 30th, here or on other forums. But we do have quite a few spread across October (and a few from August too).

      Hopefully they schedule our friends from August the last week of February and then do October DQs in March.

      In 2022, February and March were the busiest months for IR1/CR1 visas, where they issued 89 and 81, respectively. This was compared to 57 in January and 69 in April. Hopefully this trend continues for 2023.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @hanifeersan I added you to the list.

      DQ Date [Interview Date]

      July/Temmuz 2022 (Note: Most Jul DQs received interview dates)

      • @Saad July 2 [Waiting] (Third-party national)

      August/Ağustos 2022 (Note: Some Aug DQs received interview dates)

      • @lucky2022 Late August [Waiting] (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)
      • @Handan August 30 [Waiting] (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)
      • @Naile-İlyas August 31 [Waiting] (Turkish citizen, lived in third-party country)

      September/September 2022

      • @AE123 September 29 [Early March]
      • @letlor September 30 [March 17]

      October/Ekim 2022

      • @tekinusa October 6 [March 15]
      • @yusufkeser October 14 [March 16]
      • @ekdodo October 17 [March 20]
      • @mazeno October 20 [March 21]
      • @t34 - October 30 [Late March]

      November/Kasım2022

      • @trbilgin November 9
      • @hanifeersan November 23
      • @ecom November 28
      • @koro November 30

      December/Aralık 2022

      • @Thenomad December 2
      • @CuckooFlower-Daisy December 7
      • @Sinem-Arslan December 12 (IR2)
      • @sdfdm December 15

      January/Ocack 2023

      • @enayt January 10
      • @ufuk_sa January 11
      • @matt88 January 24
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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @hanifeersan, içinde söyledi: IR1/CR1 sureci ve mulakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandasi ile evlenip Turkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @trbilgin, içinde söyledi: IR1/CR1 sureci ve mulakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandasi ile evlenip Turkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @matt88 ayda bir veriyorlar, ve normalde ay sonunda olur

      O zaman bu ayın sonunda Kasım da DQ olanlara gün verilecek Nisan ayına. Sıra bende inşallah amin

      They last sent interview letters on January 27th. I assume they might send the next round at the end of February or the beginning of March.

      I do wonder if the earthquake will slow things down as they might have more expedite requests among those effected and/or helping US citizens relocate, find loved ones, or other important things. This is how it should be though. The earthquake situation is heartbreaking and they need all the help they can get.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      I am happy to report that we received an Interview Date of May 8th. Our DQ was November 30th.

      I will update the list as soon as I can.

      I hope our friends who are still waiting get their interview dates soon.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      Thanks @ecom for the information here and in previous posts. I agree that the USCIS and NVC instructions are generally clear and folks should follow those as closely as possible. It is also helpful to hear from our friends here on the forum, recognizing each case is different and that some cases are much more complex then others (and sometimes mistakes are made).

      With regards to the police certificate, since the English version doesn't translate everything on the page (i.e., the QR code explanation box), it seems the safest thing to do is upload the Turkish language version. NVC clearly state they accept English or Turkish language documents, so submitting only Turkish documents from appropriate sources (e.g., E-Develt) should be sufficient.

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @AE123 The information I use comes from here https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics/immigrant-visa-statistics/monthly-immigrant-visa-issuances.html

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

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    • RE: IR-1/CR-1 süreci ve mülakat deneyimleri (ABD vatandaşı ile evlenip Türkiye'de Green Card almak)

      @yusufkeser Thanks, I added you to the list too!

      @lucky2022 - DQ late August
      @Handan - DQ August 30
      @Naile-İlyas - DQ August 31
      @AE123 - DQ September 29
      @tekinusa - DQ October 6
      @yusufkeser - DQ October 14
      @ekdodo - DQ October 17
      @mazeno - DQ October 20
      @t34 - DQ October 30

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